A common question a prospect has when looking at the Amway IBO business plan is how much does an Amway platinum really make. The brochure given to them says the income for
Q12's & above is about $55,000/yr
so the prospect thinks that is what a platinum makes and all the platinums paraded at the end of the open meeting business plan actually makes.
If you look at the 6-4-2 plan, it shows a platinum makes about $2,700/month. They also say in the plan that if you maintain that for 12 months, you get additional bonus of $20,000 and your income will be over $50,000/yr. Those numbers are correct, provided you have that exact 6-4-2 business.
But here is the truth:
It is a highly impractical example and it is 100% sure that you will not go platinum with a 6-4-2 business.
To really understand the plan, you need to do some math. The way your bonus is calculated is through differential, not your total PV. What this means is that if you have lot of width (personally registered IBO's) and the volume coming from each leg is roughly the same, like the 1300 PV shown in the 6-4-2 plan, then you will make money.
But now (especially with the philosophy/technique of tap-rooting) your upline will take all your contacts and put them in one leg for you, one below another, and build depth. Yes, it helps build stability to your business that way, but the security and the money is only for your upline initially (provided he has other legs). You are, of course, still "learning". Your upline will try to find someone who will build another leg by himself. It may be you, or someone below you. Let us say, you are really fortunate and your upline built 1 solid leg for you (which in itself is highly unlikely). Now you have 1 leg with 4000 PV and let's say, you did 150 PV yourself. Do you know how much money you will make?
Your maximum total will be around:
4150 PV * 3 BV/PV * 21% = $2,614.50
(21% is the PV bracket for 4000 PV to anything below 6000 PV)
Is that the money you make? NO. That is the money paid to your entire group.
Your downline went 4000 PV, so he and the group below him will make a total of
4000 PV * 3 PV/BV * 21% = $2,520
So your check from Amway will be for
$2,614.50 - $2,520 = $94.50.
Great income, eh?
The lesson is - you should not be in the same PV bracket as any of your downlines. If you are, then you won't make much money.
Do you know how many legs majority of the Amway platinums have?
ONE OR TWO, NOT SIX
So how much money will they make?
With two legs, the maximum you can make is when both your legs do equal PV. Let us say, they both are 4,000 PV and your total is 8,000+ PV and you crossed 7500 PV that month. Now you are in 25% bracket and both your legs are in 21% bracket.
The money you will make is (assuming you do 150 PV yourself):
(8150 PV * 3 BV/PV * 25%) - (2 legs * 4000 PV * 3 BV/PV * 21%) = $1072.5
Not bad money, but 99% you won't go platinum this way. You will have one 6000 PV leg (23%) and you will scramble for some PV to go 7500, so you will end up stocking up 1500 PV worth of products and lose about $1000+. Or your downline will go 7500 PV and you won't have anything on the side and you will be a "pushed silver" i.e. someone who went 7500 (called 'silver' when you go 7500 PV first month) without doing any work.
They you will realize you need to build a 2nd leg to make money. Only when you build a strong 2nd leg you will see some money. That is a LOT of hard work, so don't believe it if they say money will come easy to you. When you have two strong legs and build a third leg, you will see some good money coming in. Of course, there are people (0.0001% of 'active' IBOs) who have built 6 & more legs, but just know the facts before you "go for it".
These are the opinions and/or personal experiences of one individual ex-Amway Global/quixtar IBO affiliated with the BWW/Gala organization. What is truth to you is what you experience yourself and is based on how you interpret what you experience. Use these posts at your own discretion. I hope Amway and BWW clean up their acts if they ever read this blog.
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Friday, April 13, 2012
Amway/BWW justifications
If you have read my other posts, you know how professional Amway diamonds and IBOs are when it comes to telling lies. But in their minds, they always justify the lies they are telling as truths, and that too, very convincingly. You see, when you lie, your conscience is pricking you from the inside, so you try to justify to yourself and to others that you are actually not lying.
If you listen to Kumar and Anjali's diamond story, Kumar says he had to 'somehow' get people to functions. If the function is in Gatlinburg, Tennessee, which is 14 hours away from New Jersey (where Kumar and his prospect/downline live), then he would tell the function is "6 plus" hours away. Kumar justifies this by telling he is not lying and 14 is indeed "6 plus". Yes, 14 is "6 plus", but you see, that is the amount of truth in many statements made by Amway diamonds and IBOs.
When they quote the average incomes for Q12's they always quote like
Q12 platinums & above - $55,000/yr
So people think that an average Q12 platinum makes $55,000/yr. WRONG! They added all the Q12's and above, which means all emeralds, diamonds and above too, so there are a few people whose incomes are huge that will skew the average for Q12's higher!
Another example: a common 'prospecting' statement used by Amway IBOs to strangers is
"Hei, you look familiar. Have we met before?"
even though they know they never met this person before. Again their conscience is hurting when they lie that way. Amway diamond Vishal Jain justifies this nicely by telling
"Of course, I have seen human beings before. He has 2 eyes, 1 nose, 1 mouth, 2 ears, so he does look familiar. Every human being looks familiar to me."
These are just two examples, but many statements made by Amway/BWW guys are as truthful as the above.
The irony is that Amway IBOs think they are actually doing good to people by making them do anything for Amway/BWW, so they justify to themselves that lying to their prospects/downline is actually OK.
If you listen to Kumar and Anjali's diamond story, Kumar says he had to 'somehow' get people to functions. If the function is in Gatlinburg, Tennessee, which is 14 hours away from New Jersey (where Kumar and his prospect/downline live), then he would tell the function is "6 plus" hours away. Kumar justifies this by telling he is not lying and 14 is indeed "6 plus". Yes, 14 is "6 plus", but you see, that is the amount of truth in many statements made by Amway diamonds and IBOs.
When they quote the average incomes for Q12's they always quote like
Q12 platinums & above - $55,000/yr
So people think that an average Q12 platinum makes $55,000/yr. WRONG! They added all the Q12's and above, which means all emeralds, diamonds and above too, so there are a few people whose incomes are huge that will skew the average for Q12's higher!
Another example: a common 'prospecting' statement used by Amway IBOs to strangers is
"Hei, you look familiar. Have we met before?"
even though they know they never met this person before. Again their conscience is hurting when they lie that way. Amway diamond Vishal Jain justifies this nicely by telling
"Of course, I have seen human beings before. He has 2 eyes, 1 nose, 1 mouth, 2 ears, so he does look familiar. Every human being looks familiar to me."
These are just two examples, but many statements made by Amway/BWW guys are as truthful as the above.
The irony is that Amway IBOs think they are actually doing good to people by making them do anything for Amway/BWW, so they justify to themselves that lying to their prospects/downline is actually OK.
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